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A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  GhostMana on Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:12 pm

Hi Everyone...
Before going on explaining what happened , wanted to mention on that no one can't avoid doing a mistake.

>As long all know about server crashes and how many BossKills had occured.
so in few lines...
as long the drops are many the money from it increasing as well.
kika had much money on her BKshop Chr but as well no matter how much as long she sit the price right.

What happened is that recentrly after selling many drops and money reached almost 2kkk +

she didnt notice about and also she has no idea that it's could be limited or so...
just like normal sell and gather then share all.. but last days the f/l system bugged and no way to share you all.
So keeping money till the bug getting fixed
today while she's selling the 3x G62 2H Weapons, what happened is

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If you pay attention a bit in that ss you will find that 1st sword sold for 86kk,
2nd sword sold for ~40kk
3rd sword sold for 0 Geons , just had been sold but no geons added. so you cant make a shop with item and put the price = 0





as you all see , she sent 999.999.999 to her Mage for trying to make the amount of money less , then avoiding another mistake could happen cuz of money amount...


Those Swords belong to the kill of 18.02, 2nd kill

point is

Game Managment system didnt allow the money to be added inside and just added money till the limitied rate << still dunno what is that limited amount^^ never had such much money , also kika
so no clue for her to know about how much is possible to be inside inventory of Geons...
So counting the lose will be 85+45 = 130kk.

for sure no doubt about that kika is a full trusted person and never would scamm or even think about
just being busy with life and also with fixing all of that stuff over the BK so on , make no attention for such things would never thought about. " The Money limitation in the characters"

You can look the SS and you can see more infor inside it

Already we sent C/S and waiting till we get answer over that...
The SS of selling and also SS of the ppl who bought and their payment.

The Payment from the buyer

1st




2nd




Well My Opinion is : as long as i see how suffering those last many BossKills and that problem which happened without meaning to be done.. all of that because of not letting the chr inv be able to have more and more money over 2kkk or so..

I suggest that the lose of money get no share at all...
and i think if you look in how much your share will be decreased like ~500k or so dunno how much exactly but .. think about

Kika did nothing bad or wrong all of it was selling and gather the money to share at least but as she figured out , money were not added into the inventory..

Topic is opened , share us with your opinions without blame xD


Thanks for reading and sorry for much writting I did.

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  GhostMana on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:39 am

Maika wrote:hello everyone

if you all trust kIkA . its ok as GhostMana said in his topic...

but for what kIkA is taking 1% of our bk share as work she do?

so. kIkA used to take 1% of our boss kill shares. and we have accepted this already..

but that isnt our problem to loss money from our bosskill share. besides what kIkA did.

if we lost this money of the g62 2h sword. { thats to all the ppl who was there in this bk round }

so for what kIkA is taking 1% of our geons as work of her? that isnt fair... sorry

please comment about what i have said.

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  angelswings on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:47 am

as I said on your other spot. That issue was addressed in another post on the Suggestions portion of this site. If you want to discuss something about THIS current issue... By all means...

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Kika on Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:02 am

Just explaining what GhostMana posted.

Yes, all that happened and I swear to God I had no idea about the limit on the amount of money in inventory.
As you all can see, I set up shop for 86.000.000 1st sword, and sold, and got 86.000.000.
Then I set up shop again with the other 2 swords, since the buyers suppose to pay the same amount: 85.000.000. The 2nd sword, sold and I got 40.686.264 geons. 3rd sword sold and I got 0 geons. ( as u can see in ss above )

Some ppl already said that I scammed 45kk + 85kk = 130kk. I just wanna say that u really think that if I would scam any money from bk, ( since like 10+ bk's drops = 3bi already sold ), I would scam only 130kk??????????? With 3kkk in cash????? I dont think so.
If I was a scammer, I just could scam those 3 bi and not 130kk lol....

Better u think a bit about it and check ss's again. If it's not clear, I can send 1 by 1 to those that ask for the ss's, then u can see by yourself, that I got 40.686.264 for the 2nd sword and ZERO, for the 3rd one. And u all can check also, Czarnowidz and DeLiDuraN's ss's, the 85.000.000 spent. So, if its a bug or a limit of cash in inventory ITS NOT MY FAULT.

yes, Im being paid for the job - which one I do really well - and everything is in that screen shots. I got NOTHING, IM NOT scamming bk money. I set shop with RIGHT PRICE, not wrong price as u can see in buyers ss's.

Im just saying that I am trying to send cs to gms asking about it and asap their answer, I'll post in here.

Ty
Kika~~

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  sM on Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:24 am

as far as i know u are allowed to have 2.1xx KKk or 4.2xx KKK in ur inventory cos of 32-bit failure in kal.
maybe its fixed, but the screenshots and the "story" here says us (especially me) that its still bugged Mad

so i believe that kika doesnt wanna scamm bk-shares (why she should? she also gets triple amount of shares already -.- )

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Chilly on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:26 am

seems that 1% share thingy came just in time.
u get more share with that 1% then others get as normal shares.
gg ^^

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  SusieQ on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:30 pm

How about combining all drops from a week and write down all names that helped and the times they helped for that week. I think this will safe kika a lot of calculating and sending shares.

About the problem mentioned about, sh*t happens.

I dont mind kika taking 1% of the shares for all the work that needs to be done. BK takes less time than all the work that needs to be done for checking the SS's, selling the drops, calculating and sending all shares.

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  SplashyFlip on Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:09 pm

afaik all money will be gone if you have more then 2.140kk in inventory.. even though it looks like you still have 2kkk in inventory, you can't spend it.. it just disappears.

It justed to be like this.. exceet limit then if you try buy something from shop, money for item will disapear, but you will not get the item. Maybe they changed it a little.. I never felt like testing it.

kIkA I trust you, I have no doubts in my mind that you would ever scamm any of us, but to be honost.. how could you not have known this.....

Let's hope GM will restore it. I know they've done it before and you have a perfect registration of all transactions.

I know you have had soooo much work for the BK's from last week. I really felt sorry for you, but I'm still going to spank you Razz

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Kika on Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:38 pm

SusieQ wrote:How about combining all drops from a week and write down all names that helped and the times they helped for that week. I think this will safe kika a lot of calculating and sending shares.



I do that, in every bk. And I did that in last week. The problem it was not calculating the money. As I said, I set shop with the right price, not wrong price. But I didnt know about the money limit. Thats all.

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Kika on Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:40 pm

Chilly wrote:seems that 1% share thingy came just in time.
u get more share with that 1% then others get as normal shares.
gg ^^

1% is not the point here... Pls read the subject.
And dont forget about angelswings. we SHARE the 1% thing.
And, tbh, more than deserved, right????

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Kika on Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:05 pm

SplashyFlip wrote:
kIkA I trust you, I have no doubts in my mind that you would ever scamm any of us, but to be honost.. how could you not have known this.....

I know you have had soooo much work for the BK's from last week. I really felt sorry for you, but I'm still going to spank you Razz


How could I know??? I never got that much money lol... =/

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  SIKKER on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:39 pm

I remember the time I checked out p-server. They all use original serverfiles from 2004/5. There is a limit of ~3,2KKK and your whole money gone if you get more...So if you reach the max you money will set to ZERO. I never saw any info by Inix they had changed the max to 2.14KKK or anything else about this.

I donīt trust kIkA, like every1 I dont know. So it isnt personel.
I believe the story but I dont think it is any bug.
If kIkA realy had ~2KKK only I have just 1 suggestion:

Do you remember shop/tradehax?

So long there is no SS from the one who bought the sword and no SS from kIkAīs (BKShop) inventory with the whole amount of geons I have no other idea what could happened.

just my opinion ladies Wink

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  Kika on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:48 pm

SIKKER wrote:

Do you remember shop/tradehax?

So long there is no SS from the one who bought the sword and no SS from kIkAīs (BKShop) inventory with the whole amount of geons I have no other idea what could happened.

just my opinion ladies Wink


No, I dont remember that shop. Is it a char name???

And you can check the ss's that u said in here, above all these comments. ^^

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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  SplashyFlip on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:00 pm

ok, seems only a 'little bit' of the total amount of geons disappeared... Let's hope GM will restore that like they have done a in the past when something like this happened.

Now kIkA knows about this, so it will not happen again.

SIKKER wrote:I remember the time I checked out p-server. They all use original serverfiles from 2004/5. There is a limit of ~3,2KKK and your whole money gone if you get more...So if you reach the max you money will set to ZERO. I never saw any info by Inix they had changed the max to 2.14KKK or anything else about this.

I donīt trust kIkA, like every1 I dont know. So it isnt personel.
I believe the story but I dont think it is any bug.
If kIkA realy had ~2KKK only I have just 1 suggestion:

Do you remember shop/tradehax?

So long there is no SS from the one who bought the sword and no SS from kIkAīs (BKShop) inventory with the whole amount of geons I have no other idea what could happened.

just my opinion ladies Wink


approx. 2.14kkk is max, after that (not so) funny things start to happen. I don't remember the exact amount, but close to that amount. Btw, you don't have to trust kIkA. That is why she keeps records of her transactions. And to be honost, it only matters if the people that get the drops trust her Smile


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Re: A Problem had been detected ... Important to look inside. 19.02

Post  sM on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:04 pm

i guess nearly whole hanin knows that i dont rly like kika, but like i said it wasnt her fault.
@sikker: the limit is 2,135987kkk geons, cos its the 32-bit overflow. so ur memory about the priv-server with 3.2kkk isnt good Smile

i think every1 who plays/played on p-servers know this limit cos of the bug. so it wasnt rly kikas fault if she didnt play on any p-server ago. all in all, try to write nice c/s message with the happening and ask the GMs for restoration.
AND DONT FORGET TO SEND THE BK MONEY TO 2 OR 3 CHARACTERS IF 1 ACC WILL GET MORE THAN 2KK.

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