D5 Boss

TrashcanMan wrote:i say no shared drops for d5f3 boss. sometimes he only drops a couple pieces of g55 and there are maaaaany people there. too much work, and look at all the crap already over the emok boss. i vote for every man/woman for himself/herself :p

Tell them Trashie

Hi all!

Why not make a share system at Element Master? like we have at Emok.
Same 12 ppl allways get the drops.
Lets say in 1 day MK spwan 4 times and it give drops worth 250kk thats 20.8kk each on 12ppl
So in 1 month MK spwan around 120 times, and how much money is that.....
Do you guys think thats fair?

Anyone have suggestions, Or shall we just be happy that we get few % exp and 0 geons
And let the rich ppl get so much geons that they need make new acc´s to put there geons in.

Thanks for reading this, i hope you understand what i mean

/ KaXeN

KaXeN wrote:Hi all!

Why not make a share system at Element Master? like we have at Emok.
Same 12 ppl allways get the drops.
Lets say in 1 day MK spwan 4 times and it give drops worth 250kk thats 20.8kk each on 12ppl
So in 1 month MK spwan around 120 times, and how much money is that.....
Do you guys think thats fair?

Anyone have suggestions, Or shall we just be happy that we get few % exp and 0 geons
And let the rich ppl get so much geons that they need make new acc´s to put there geons in.

Thanks for reading this, i hope you understand what i mean

/ KaXeN

I agree with u and I vote for like each respawn, 1 guild kill. Ofc tank party gonna be there cuz its a good exp, but we could propose that idea with them.
Idk.. We could make like 2x guild Master Kill party/ week. Or we can make like 3 registered parties each respawn.
Ofc ppl gonna kill too cuz of the exp and archers parties gonna kill too and get drops, but then, they give to parties/guilds registered for that time.
I think that gonna be fair and it gonna help everyone.

Any ideas????

The Idea with every day or every respawn kill a another guild for good.so would get the drops not only few people and its a easy way to fix the problem.so i agree this idea.

u forgot 1 problem...

tell bible and kwartai ur ideas :>

But what heppens if the server resets and the guild thats up on rotation isn't active at that time zone or some other thing that could screw up the scheduled times/guild... how do we work around that?

What if a guild can't get the drops?
People are talking about guilds, but what about mercs?
What guilds can get an MK and what guilds can't
Currently only EA's can manage to hold agro, but not many EA's are able to survive 6.5k+ crits from the Master without using a flag. Tanking is expensive (bear skinn, power scrolls, rebirths). Who's paying for that?
How about ks-ers or maybe even drop stealers?
Drops 0, 1 or 2 items mostly and mostly just an element or G55 (doesn't pay for bear skinn and powerscrolls)

SplashyFlip wrote:What if a guild can't get the drops?
People are talking about guilds, but what about mercs?

It gonna be a time for everyone, including merc.

SplashyFlip wrote:
What guilds can get an MK and what guilds can't

Idk.. It was only an idea... We can say 2, 3 parties everytime... or idk...

SplashyFlip wrote:
Currently only EA's can manage to hold agro, but not many EA's are able to survive 6.5k+ crits from the Master without using a flag. Tanking is expensive (bear skinn, power scrolls, rebirths). Who's paying for that?

I think every boss belongs to everyone. As Bk dont belongs to me, but the whole sv, Master from D5 belongts to everyone who want to kill and get exp too.
I know those EA's party can handle by themselfs, but u forgot that sv is not opened only for them when Master respawns.
I know tanking is expensive and everything, but MK is not like LK that the mirror's owner must to pay tank and they have to get the agro. I think MK belongs to everyone and everyone has the right to get drops too.
Idk... We all could make a deal with that and maybe they keep tanking and each reg time, reg guild or parties get the drops by tank hands.
They gonna kill anyway even for the exp, because its good exp for them. For everyone. They cant complain with that.

SplashyFlip wrote:
How about ks-ers or maybe even drop stealers?
Drops 0, 1 or 2 items mostly and mostly just an element or G55 (doesn't pay for bear skinn and powerscrolls)

Yea, but its a risk.
And I didnt get the powerscrolls point here... They use because they want to use. As I said, MK is not same kill as LK. Noone needs to buy anything to Master respawns... And I dont think someone needs to pay to get drops.
And Im not saying that EA's must to help. Its only a suggestion and if they do for them, it gonna be great if they can help others too.

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Im sry.. I dont wanna start a fight here, but what KaXeN said its true.
How can we think in try if EA's are up each 6 hours, even in the middle of the night, when Master respawns?
Not saying that they are greedy or sth, but they dont let other ppl get a change to try.. Or other guilds... Or anyone... They just kept the Master for them and thats it.
I love Kwartai, Bible, Saam till death. And I think they are not mad on me cuz of my words. And I think they understand what I want to say.

<33

hola

1st of all ofc it's sounds good let the whole server have a chance to kill the Master.
But what is different to now? Since the D5 Master is ingame the whole server allready got the chance & everytime... but hardly anyone is trying to make good parties to get the drops.

so what's that:

kIkA wrote:It gonna be a time for everyone, including merc.

everyone is allowed to kill since it spawns. I haven't seen anybody @D5F3 who was saying u're not allowed to "kill" plz leave the area lol.

kIkA wrote:I think every boss belongs to everyone. As Bk dont belongs to me, but
the whole sv, Master from D5 belongts to everyone who want to kill and
get exp too.
I know those EA's party can handle by themselfs, but u forgot that sv is not opened only for them when Master respawns.
I
know tanking is expensive and everything, but MK is not like LK that
the mirror's owner must to pay tank and they have to get the agro. I
think MK belongs to everyone and everyone has the right to get drops
too.
Idk... We all could make a deal with that and maybe they keep
tanking and each reg time, reg guild or parties get the drops by tank
hands.
They gonna kill anyway even for the exp, because its good exp for them. For everyone. They cant complain with that.

noone of the EAs is saying that the Master belongs to them. And btw who would wait for a "guild-master-kill" after servercrash etc. .... i think ppl who got time won't wait until they maybe don't have time to kill for exp w/e ... same like BK ... nobody is waiting for anyone all ppl just wait for their party if it's complete wanna start asap.
Abt the aggro @D5F3 master w/o a good tank party there will be more deathes @Masterkill aggro will switch everytime like it allready happend sometimes and a lot of ppl will day + the master might dissapear bc someone was smart enough to plopp it :p

Now abt the EXP comparin with the other mobs in D5 MK gives good EXP for sure. But compared to BK or LK EXP @MK is just crap believe me. And the tankparty won't have the best EXP >.< ... so what for should they tank & risk their money if the aim might be not the drops.

So since the Master belogns to the whole sv u can't decide here what's good & bad or wrong & right.
Everyone can try to plan his time in kal maybe someone enjoys killin MK every 6hrs why not. And ofc a couple of times not the same ppl where gettin the drops & these ppl also didn't share with all ... but why should they?

Everyone can go there ... everyone can try to kill!
If it works normal (no aggro switches etc) it's like free EXP for all up there. Archers won't need meds. Knights can stand be the Master and won't get hitted too. So feel lucky and enjoy the EXP.

Abt the drops as Splashy said MK drops are random sometimes it's G65 drops but that's rare ... most of the time it's only "just geons" ; "just 1 G55part" ; "just 1 ground element" or "just 1 essence" ... and this are good drops for "greedy" ppl ? i lol'd :<

And just for info Master can be killed by 1 party solo ... with 2 partys it's easily other partys around the Master are there just for EXP & for fun (if ppl like Speedy3 <3 or DemonNZDS won't DL ;x ). DoggebiLord or EmokDragon can't be killed by 1 party ... if it would be possible believe me ppl would try it lol (since everyone mob in kal belongs to everyone...)

so i vote for who's first @MK can go & kill it ... so maybe hope for Speedy3 that he tries to plopp the Master like 2 times yesterday :>
(and btw i don't think the whole server is readin this lil forum to get informed what are the rules of hanin O.O ... ask inix for extra forum @kalpage to have an official solution not an agreement of some hanin players)

-Ty-

gReetz'

/edit btw some 1hh find his way to D5F3 Master :> maybe that's better? He allready got G65 Mage & G60 Archer Shoes this Knight so don't buy everything u can see in shouts or in cop.

//edit² @kIkA plz don't send shares via f/L atm ... since f/L system is bugged and they might be deleted -Ty-

Kika wrote:
I love Kwartai, Bible, Saam till death. And I think they are not mad on me cuz of my words. And I think they understand what I want to say.

<33

I can tell you that they won't be mad cuz of this and they understand perfectly

TheresiA wrote:hola
He allready got G65 Mage & G60 Archer Shoes this Knight so don't buy everything u can see in shouts or in cop.

List of dangerous items to buy atm:
G65 M.Boots
G60 A.Boots
G60 M.Boots
G55 M.Gloves

1HH'd drops = hacked items = perm block if you buy

SplashyFlip wrote:

TheresiA wrote:hola
He allready got G65 Mage & G60 Archer Shoes this Knight so don't buy everything u can see in shouts or in cop.

List of dangerous items to buy atm:
G65 M.Boots
G60 A.Boots
G60 M.Boots
G55 M.Gloves

1HH'd drops = hacked items = perm block if you buy

also an element of ground ... BangHit was selling the drops.

TheresiA wrote:hola

so what's that:

kIkA wrote:It gonna be a time for everyone, including merc.

TheresiA wrote:everyone is allowed to kill since it spawns. I haven't seen anybody @D5F3 who was saying u're not allowed to "kill" plz leave the area lol.

If u read my last answer on this topic, u'll see why I said that. It was a reply to SplashyFlip.

TheresiA wrote:
... so what for should they tank & risk their money if the aim might be not the drops.

As I said, it was just a suggestion. I didnt say: you EA's MUST to go and help guilds or parties in MK... ^^

TheresiA wrote:
So since the Master belogns to the whole sv u can't decide here what's good & bad or wrong & right. .

I never said that ^^ I only said that what Kaxen said its right. Everyone has the right to try and the right to get drops too. But how they can try, if EA's dont let them have a chance???
Thats what I said. Dont change my words in here..

TheresiA wrote:
Abt the drops as Splashy said MK drops are random sometimes it's G65 drops but that's rare ... most of the time it's only "just geons" ; "just 1 G55part" ; "just 1 ground element" or "just 1 essence" ... and this are good drops for "greedy" ppl ? i lol'd :<

Once again: Dont change my words. I NEVER said they are greedy.
And about drops, I said its their risk. But and if g65 drop? Thats good, right??

TheresiA wrote: And just for info Master can be killed by 1 party solo ... with 2 partys it's easily ...

Thats when I said about 2, 3 parties... Idk why u try to change everything that I said O.o'

TheresiA wrote:
DoggebiLord or EmokDragon can't be killed by 1 party ... if it would be possible believe me ppl would try it lol (since everyone mob in kal belongs to everyone...)

Thats right. Everyone has the same rights as EA's party. Ofc u cant compare with low lvls. Im talking about high lvls.

TheresiA wrote: so i vote for who's first @MK can go & kill it ...

Me too. Thats what Im trying to say... But HOW ppl can try if they dont have a chance if EA's party are there even in the middle of the night???? If they are there, training normally, fine. But they set up an alarm to wake up and be there. = ONLY THEM can get a chance to kill master and get the drops.

TheresiA wrote:(and btw i don't think the whole server is readin this lil forum to get informed what are the rules of hanin O.O ...

Noone said here that this lil forum as u said, its a new forum of Hanin rules. LOL TheresiA... U are really wrong in ur words today...

TheresiA wrote://edit² @kIkA plz don't send shares via f/L atm ... since f/L system is bugged and they might be deleted -Ty-

Yes I know. Im not stupid.

Kika ~~

\edit: Im not going to complain about this topic. As I said, it was only a reply about Kaxen question. Thats my opinion :~~

SplashyFlip wrote:

Kika wrote:
I love Kwartai, Bible, Saam till death. And I think they are not mad on me cuz of my words. And I think they understand what I want to say.

<33

I can tell you that they won't be mad cuz of this and they understand perfectly

I talked to Asti and Andy already =) And yes, they are not ad, they laugh hahaha
They knows me and they knows I say everything that I think :~

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote:
... so what for should they tank & risk their money if the aim might be not the drops.

As I said, it was just a suggestion. I didnt say: you EA's MUST to go and help guilds or parties in MK... ^^

yep they don't need but if they do + get the drops they ca still decide what to do like on BK

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote:
So since the Master belogns to the whole sv u can't decide here what's good & bad or wrong & right. .

I never said that ^^ I only said that what Kaxen said its right. Everyone has the right to try and the right to get drops too. But how they can try, if EA's dont let them have a chance???
Thats what I said. Dont change my words in here..

I'm not changing anybodys words. But uh, "EA's don't let them have a chance" did i missd somethig ? everyone got a chance to get the drops but hardly anyone is trying to buildup good parties. so that's not the problem of the EA's party or should they start attackin the Boss @5% hp left ... to get less EXP & finally nothing? No one @ BK is saying stop attackin now we're not sure if the normal "tank/dropparty" will get the drop so plz stop attackin.. lol
Everyone who's @MK is there also for gettin EXP so why should ppl risk their EXP? Also for the moment some 1hh is having fun... so nvm abt MK

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote:
Abt the drops as Splashy said MK drops are random sometimes it's G65 drops but that's rare ... most of the time it's only "just geons" ; "just 1 G55part" ; "just 1 ground element" or "just 1 essence" ... and this are good drops for "greedy" ppl ? i lol'd :<

Once again: Dont change my words. I NEVER said they are greedy.
And about drops, I said its their risk. But and if g65 drop? Thats good, right??

I said "greedy". Not you right. and i used "~" bc it wasn't the best word... And ya G65 might be ok but it's rare + topically some 1hh is gettin the drops :>

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote: And just for info Master can be killed by 1 party solo ... with 2 partys it's easily ...

Thats when I said about 2, 3 parties... Idk why u try to change everything that I said O.o'

Again ... I don't change your words lol it was just a comment of me. Or did I write "And kIkA u say .... but in fact ..." No.
So don't try to say "why u try to change everything that I said O.o'" when i'm just gettin facts o.O
I never said the things u wrote were wrong... did I?

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote:
DoggebiLord or EmokDragon can't be killed by 1 party ... if it would be possible believe me ppl would try it lol (since everyone mob in kal belongs to everyone...)

Thats right. Everyone has the same rights as EA's party. Ofc u cant compare with low lvls. Im talking about high lvls.

Did I say the EA's party got special rights? Nope ... they are just @D5F3 trying to have fun maybe gettin the drops & done. As I said before
hardly anybody is trying to buildup good partys...

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote: so i vote for who's first @MK can go & kill it ...

Me too. Thats what Im trying to say... But HOW ppl can try if they dont have a chance if EA's party are there even in the middle of the night???? If they are there, training normally, fine. But they set up an alarm to wake up and be there. = ONLY THEM can get a chance to kill master and get the drops.

Everyone knows the spawntime .. if not u can ask in guild / ally & do the same.
If I wanna participate in BK @normal spawntime during the night I've to set alarm too since i'm not playin 24/7 & enjoyin RL / sleep more then some kk from boss
And don't say "Only them" got a chance .... everyone can be there too. since it's possible for a lot of EA's to go to BK in the mid of the night. (spawntime from MK isn't so different from normal BK) But if noone wants to stand up it's the "EA's partys fault (my words i'm not changin ur words!!!) that they didn't wait for 100+ ppl to go there Oo?" comparin to BK nobody wanna wait until there are 300+ ppl @BK
So what?

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote:(and btw i don't think the whole server is readin this lil forum to get informed what are the rules of hanin O.O ...

Noone said here that this lil forum as u said, its a new forum of Hanin rules. LOL TheresiA... U are really wrong in ur words today...

was just a provocation since i doubt that all ppl who're going to MK and playin on Hanin will read this.

Kika wrote:

TheresiA wrote://edit² @kIkA plz don't send shares via f/L atm ... since f/L system is bugged and they might be deleted -Ty-

Yes I know. Im not stupid.

Kika ~~

\edit: Im not going to complain about this topic. As I said, it was only a reply about Kaxen question. Thats my opinion :~~

np~ i'm not going to complain abt urs too just wanted to add some comments o.o" to "my" last words
And it's just my opinion in this case. Btw for BongosPL who shouted for me .... again just for u please tell me where i've got 700kk from MK in the last month µ.µ ... seems that i missed the jackpot :<

gReetz'